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--- utilisateurs:postdocs:accomodation [2018/09/12 10:16]
cmorice
+++ utilisateurs:postdocs:accomodation [2019/01/29 20:21]
aretolaza [Cité Universitaire]
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 ====== Accommodation ======
-===== Science Accueil =====
+Finding accommodation can be very challenging, especially for foreigners. The private real estate market is very tight in and around Paris, with landowners who tend to be very demanding. There are several possible alternatives.
-Science Accueil is an organisation providing help for international researchers settling in Paris. It offers tailored suggestions of accommodation in English, as well as many other services. In particular, unlike normal renting in Paris, they do not ask for a guarantor. The majority of postdocs here use their services.
+A rather painless way to find accommodation is via people already at the lab. Try to send a message to your IPhT contact to check if anyone is vacating their room or apartment when you arrive.
-www.science-accueil.org
+===== Private market =====
+Since demand is very high and renters are very well protected by French law, landlords and especially real estate agencies tend to ask for a ``dossier'' that indicates your financial solvency. If you have a temporary contract (CDD) you will probably also need a guarantor, i.e. someone who agrees to pay the landowner in the event where the tenant would be unable to do so.
-===== Estate agencies =====
+==== Real estate agencies ====
-The majority of the accommodation renting in France is done via estate agencies. The market is very tight in Paris, and landowners tend to be very demanding. In particular, it is widespread behaviour to ask for proof of a good employment situation, and for a guarantor, i.e. someone who agrees to pay the landowner in the event where the tenant would be unable to do so.
+The majority of the accommodation renting in France is done via estate agencies.
   * General housing advice for Paris from an outsider’s perspective: http://www.ags.edu/living-in-paris/housing
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-===== Alternatives to dealing with estate agencies =====
+==== Avoiding agencies ====
-Obviously the most painless way to find accommodation is via people already at the lab, so try sending a message to your IPhT contact, as you can get lucky if someone is just on the point of vacating their room or apartment when you arrive.
-==== 1 - Websites with classified adverts for apartments and studios to let ====
+=== Apartment rental website ===
 Pros: dealing directly with the private landlord of an apartment saves paying the heavy fees (up to one month’s rent) that an estate/letting agency will charge.
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-==== 2 - Flatshare searching websites ====
+==== Flatsharing websites ====
 Pros: can be cheaper than finding a single studio apartment
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-==== 3 - Purpose-built accommodation for students and researchers in Paris and Ile-De-France ====
+===== Alternatives to the private market =====
 Pros: not too much trouble if rooms are available; normally don’t ask for a guarantor, often possible to stay for short term or long term periods.
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+==== Science Accueil ====
+Science Accueil is an organisation providing help for international researchers settling in Paris. It offers tailored suggestions of accommodation in English, as well as many other services. In particular, unlike normal renting in Paris, they do not ask for a guarantor. The majority of postdocs here use their services.
+www.science-accueil.org
+==== Cité Universitaire ====
+Cité Universitaire provides accommodation for researchers and students of any age in Paris: http://www.ciup.fr/en/houses/applying-for-housing/. In the case of researchers, they also provide accommodation for families. It consists of around 40 "maisons" (residencies) in a park area in the south of Paris. Many of the "maisons" are related to countries and they try to fit people in the "maison" of their country, but this is not a rule.
+It is a particularly interesting option for having accommodation on arrival: one can apply online while being abroad and without any of the French documents (e.g. french paysheets) often required in the "dossiers". Moreover, for those interested in living in Paris, Cité is located very close to a RER B station as well as relatively close to Porte d'Orleans, so there are several options to reach IPhT from there, usually taking around an hour.
+Applications for accommodation must be done here: https://bienvenue.ciup.fr/questionnaire/ . It is convenient to apply as soon as possible. The application must include a CV, a certificate from your bank (not necessarily French bank) with the account details and a proof of your future job in IPhT (ask the secretaries for an "attestation"). Other documents may be required depending on the "maison", since they are all run independently.
+==== Other websites ====
-  * There are residences dedicated to scientific researchers in Orsay and Palaiseau that are allocated by Science Accueil: www.science-accueil.org
-  * Cité Universitaire provides accommodation for researchers and students of any age in Paris close to the RER B: http://www.ciup.fr/en/houses/applying-for-housing/. They also offer some accommodation for families and a general advice service for newcomers to France: http://www.ciup.fr/en/access-en/
   * www.residence-services.comadim.fr
   * www.heberjeunes.fr
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 ===== Where to live =====
   * **Orsay**: Small town but with most services, few small bars, an arthouse cinema/theatre and a leisure centre. The transportation time to the CEA is about 20 minutes by public bus from the center and 15 minutes from Le Guichet (RER). You can also bike to the lab in 15-20 minutes, either along the road that passes by Le Guichet (longer but easier), or through the university (steeper). Part of these roads do not have bike lanes.

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